Wednesday, March 13, 2013

We have something to learn from this

Under Bergoglio's leadership, Argentina's bishops issued a collective apology in October 2012 for the church's failures to protect its flock.  [Pope Francis was elected Pope after he was runner up in 2005's vote ie after apology]



 http://www.newser.com/article/da50f4682/argentine-jorge-bergoglio-elected-pope-francis-first-pontiff-from-americas.html


Bergoglio had reportedly finished second in the 2005 conclave that produced Benedict _ who last month became the first pope to resign in 600 years. The speed with which he was elected pope this time around indicates that _ even though he is 76 and has slowed down _ he still had the trust of cardinals to do the job.

Bergoglio's legacy as cardinal includes his efforts to repair the reputation of a church that lost many followers by failing to openly challenge Argentina's murderous 1976-83 dictatorship.
Many Argentines remain angry over the church's acknowledged failure to openly confront a regime that was kidnapping and killing thousands of people as it sought to eliminate "subversive elements" in society. It's one reason why more than two-thirds of Argentines describe themselves as Catholic, but fewer than 10 percent regularly attend mass.
Under Bergoglio's leadership, Argentina's bishops issued a collective apology in October 2012 for the church's failures to protect its flock. But the statement blamed the era's violence in roughly equal measure on both the junta and its enemies.
"Bergoglio has been very critical of human rights violations during the dictatorship, but he has always also criticized the leftist guerrillas; he doesn't forget that side," Rubin said.


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Provincial HOB should do this now --

Dr Richard Barrows,  ( from thetruthasc)

Most of the people are still talking only.
If these people tasked to take action on BAV, there are time limits to pursue them in Courts be it civil or CBT.

For all cases, the evidence can be disappearing over time and BAV is surely playing his game with time.

The first thing for the church authorities concerned is to lodge Police Reports as AVCF's crime are secular items.

So  act fast now and not let any emotion of whatever shades into play.


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Please be my seconder for this motion urgent.

This motion would indicate to the BMT as facilitator.
This motion if approved would assist the Constitution subcommittee to amend the
constitutions of ASC and also ADOS in the right footing.

When we know the full problems via an investigation, we can then
be in better position to find solution / check and balance.

Let this the first facilitator see this first case before his eyes.


Motions as proposed for All Saints’ Cathedral AGM on 24th March, 2013

Motion 2    We demand for a full investigation of the performance of the acting Dean since 2006 in ASC.  An investigation committee be formed in this AGM to look into all aspects of ASC vis-à-vis ADOS to declare Datuk AV as unfit to remain as Bishop.

RATIONAL:-

1. Platform for appropriate corrective actions including restitution of losses etc.

2. To firm up misleading accusations as denied.

3. For moral boosting, morale restoration and good practice.

4. To implement the vote against AVCF as acting Dean in last AGM as he did not resign accordingly..

Proposed by Joshua Y. C. Kong                               seconded by  

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