Saturday, April 19, 2014

335. Like father like son in thieving..

joshuakong823
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RM21k Missing wrote “Bank surveillance cameras captured a church staff at the bank.”
if that is the case and the money is missing, why should such a person bother to go to the bank?

Now better check those alleged forged Payin slips to see if the account number is the right one for CTK?
If not, then we can know the answer for the missing money diverted to another bank account.





joshuakong823

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If AVCF does not take action and want to cover up the theft, he is equally guilty and likely he is part and parcel of this event as it is known of his character in the blogs.


What actually happened to the money paid by ASC for the Sulaman Anglican Church of RM70,000 for renovation in early 2012.  Any transparency or accountability for this expended item?  Is it to buy the "hype or by"?  Joshua


More theft of cash from smaller churches in KK and beyond would now likely happen more as the Court case against the HoBs APSEA is under appeal and the the defendants/respondents would need more money to pay their lawyers in tens of thousand or even hundreds of thousands of Ringgit.  We are all heading to doom unless AVCF and gang resign immediately.




joshuakong823
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It is another sign that Anglican church under avcf has collapsed since 2006 and now the sign of that happening is observed in the church/cathedral building of ASC whose walls are cracking. Lets give everything to God for BISHOPGATE must be resolved sooner.
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We must not leave any stone unturned when CTK “lost” RM14,000 for seven weeks. For the sketchy information, we do not really know what to do if the Standing Com is not told of the “theft”. The money could be used for medical treatment.



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  1. 14k Missing
    RM14,000 was found missing from Christ The King’s coffers when the auditor examined the accounts a few weeks ago. The missing money was traced to 7 forged bank deposit slips that span several months in 2013. It appeared someone who was supposed to deposit the money to the bank on behalf of the church had forged the slips, stolen the money, and returned to the church office with forged bank deposit slips. Only church employees including the priest in-charge handle bank deposits from the weekly Sunday collection.
    Another interesting fact is that on the months the money was stolen and bank deposit slips forged, the monthly bank statement was also missing from the church’s mailbox. Proper documentation of the money was not followed. Those who counted money on Sundays, signed over the counted funds to the office. However, the paper trail abruptly ended there. There was no record of who deposited the money to the bank even though this is required as part of the standard operating procedure.
    It’s been over two weeks since it the church found out about this. The PCC had spoken to the church employees but nobody has come forward to take responsibilities. Some suspect the bank to be culpable. The fact remains the money is stolen either by church employees or the bank. The church did not volunteer any information about the theft. When queried during the AGM, the new priest in-charge Rev. Lau Ay Kuen mentioned it hastily.
    This is not a crime of impulse. Whoever that had stolen the church’s money, planned this meticulously, stealing not one time, but seven times from the church. Many worrying questions remain unanswered:
    1. The RM14k stolen came from money given by the people. This is public, not personal money. The PCC and priest has a fiduciary duty to inform the people. Why hasn’t the leadership inform the church? 

    2. Why did the church fail to record who deposited money to the bank? Why is this standard operating procedure not followed?

    3. Who is responsible to ensure the SOP is followed? How could this be allowed to lapse for several months?

    4. Is there a time frame for the internal investigation? If the church’s investigation cannot solve this crime, what is the next course of action?

    5. Why is the church investigating a criminal offense (theft, forgery)? Does CTK has the abilities and competency in criminal investigation?
    The church failure to be forthcoming with information gives the impression of a cover up. Just tell us what you know, and what you don’t know but don’t withhold information from us. If this crime is an inside job, the church has the responsibility to deal with sin seriously and swiftly. Friendship with sin is enmity with God.
    • Appalling
      In this case, even the priest-charge who was pastoring the church then has to be investigated! Who? Rev Timothy Sng? If the biggest boss can do any he likes with the church money without accountability, why do we doubt the priests under him would not follow his path and his way?
  2. Chiak Lui
    I just wonder how low do they want to stand . 14 k is just small sum compares to BAV’s , uncounted millions . Even just a so called Sipitang land “miss understanding” cost us 200k. Wondering if CTK member can make police report if the church is reluctant to do so.
    • joshuakong823
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      Compile all the documents and we can go make a Police Report. If the bank is involved, then the bank has to return the money and the story ends. If not blame ourselves for the NATO.

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