Serious, not a joke from ass bishop JY

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Anonymous7 August 2012 08:48

On 28 July during the confirmation service, Bishop JY was teaching on the need to forgive and it was when he also expressed how unpleasant it felt to be accused of things he hadn't done. With that, he expressed how he had recently been constantly attacked by all the slanders and untrue statements. He went on saying,"Ngin Kah Kong Ngai Kiam Hoi Sam Chen Man (RM 30 mil), Tan Heh Ngai Mau Kiam Woh, Kan Nyong Pin Ngin Ka Kong Heh Meh Hau Mmm Tai?" Congregation nodded vehemently. Some shouted:"Mm Tai!" "Heh Kong Ngai Yu Kiam Han Tai Dee, Tan Heh Ngai Mau Kiam Woh!" Congregation laughed. Translated: "People said I took RM 30 mil but I didn't! It's so "not worth it"! If I had really taken it, it probably would have been more worth it!" While I know the last line was meant to be a joke, I thought this is an absolutely inappropriate analogy used, especially at this time of spiritual atmosphere. First, I do not know if there are people really accusing him of taking RM 30 Mil. But again, I rarely come across any ONE MAN can have the ability to swindle that large amount of money. So in my opinion, this is an analogy. A bad one. The more interesting (or rather worrying) thing is you had the whole (almost)congregation laughing along, nodding along, responding to him in agreement that the accusation was absurd. So what's my point? My point is, the church has been using this kind of "harmless analogy" to brainwash the congregation. Was JY lying about the RM 30 mil? No! It was a harmless example! Did the congregation empathise with him? YES!! This is only one of the many examples of techniques used in Tawau. Do you see the danger? How I wish the priests would not seize every opportunity to defend themselves in the pulpit. More and more church members are asking "What does it have to do with today's sermon?" Perhaps you should consider using more appropriate analogies or to preach without ulterior motives. After all, "the sheep hear His voice." Commented by "ONCE LOST"

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Anonymous8 August 2012 23:06

Mr. JY ---is he the nincompoop from Tawau…..?

Did he say so….as written in the following comment? Was it a humor to him? If it was not from him, he should make a clarification lest the public deride him as a nincompoop.

The public would never spread such a low-class rumor unless they are the nincompoops. Mr.JY, are you the nincompoop who spread the low-class rumor?

***Anonymous7 August 2012 08:48
On 28 July during the confirmation service, Bishop JY was teaching on the need to forgive and it was when he also expressed how unpleasant it felt to be accused of things he hadn't done. With that, he expressed how he had recently been constantly attacked by all the slanders and untrue statements.

He went on saying,"Ngin Kah Kong Ngai Kiam Hoi Sam Chen Man (RM 30 mil), Tan Heh Ngai Mau Kiam Woh, Kan Nyong Pin Ngin Ka Kong Heh Meh Hau Mmm Tai?" Congregation nodded vehemently. Some shouted:"Mm Tai!" "Heh Kong Ngai Yu Kiam Han Tai Dee, Tan Heh Ngai Mau Kiam Woh!" Congregation laughed.

Translated: "People said I took RM 30 mil but I didn't! It's so "not worth it"! If I had really taken it, it probably would have been more worth it!" While I know the last line was meant to be a joke, I thought this is an absolutely inappropriate analogy used, especially at this time of spiritual atmosphere. First, I do not know if there are people really accusing him of taking RM 30 Mil. But again, I rarely come across any ONE MAN can have the ability to swindle that large amount of money. So in my opinion, this is an analogy. A bad one. The more interesting (or rather worrying) thing is you had the whole (almost)congregation laughing along, nodding along, responding to him in agreement that the accusation was absurd. So what's my point? My point is, the church has been using this kind of "harmless analogy" to brainwash the congregation. Was JY lying about the RM 30 mil? No! It was a harmless example! Did the congregation empathize with him? YES!! This is only one of the many examples of techniques used in Tawau. Do you see the danger? How I wish the priests would not seize every opportunity to defend themselves in the pulpit. More and more church members are asking "What does it have to do with today's sermon?" Perhaps you should consider using more appropriate analogies or to preach without ulterior motives. After all, "the sheep hear His voice." Commented by "ONCE LOST***

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I will do a write up soon.

Question:  Did JY sign any cheque?