272. How many priests and pastors are illegal in ADOS

 
18 December 2013
To the church of The Good Samaritan
Because of the sudden departure of Rev.Eric Ling and his wife Phebe, some of our members may be
disappointed or confused. Some are misinformed about how he resigned or what actions I have taken
when he shared with me his decisions. I write this to you so everyone can be clear.
1.Rev.Eric told me he has decided to resign on 27th Nov and he told me they had decided to leave
on the 18th Dec. My first duty to him is to counsel him not to resign or if he were to resign to leave only
after Christmas. I counselled and prayed with him twice and sent Bishop John and Gillian to counsel
Eric and Phebe foe a whole day. And I gave him time to listen to the Lord. I disagree that he should
resign with reasons he had given, but in the end after counselling, he still decided he wanted to leave
on 18th Dec. I have to respect his decision. Obviously, we cannot announce to the church when I
am still counselling to him Rev. Eric because I was hoping we could change his mind. When we know our
counselling to him is not yielding the desired result, then I called a PCC meeting to announce to the PCC
and let the PCC hear Rev. Eric directly why he decided to resign from serving as a Priest in
Good Samaritan Church. The PCC listened to him and his reasons were recorded in minutes.
2. In our Diocese, when a pastor resigns his position as Pastor of a church, and I have accepted his
resignation, he has to lay down his pastoral authority over that church immediately. The family can stay
on in the Rectory for two weeks or even a month if necessary to pack and prepare to move. But he no
longer can exercise pastoral authority over the church like preaching, signing of our cheque or to chair
our PCC meeting. For example, in the case if the pastor leaving is setting up a church of his own. Can
you imagine how much damage he can cause to our congregations if he still preaches or authorise the
finance of our church. But even if the pastor is not setting up a church, the fact that he resigned, it goes
against Jesus’s teaching about good shepherd that he can still continue to exercise pastoral authority
over the church. My first duty here as the Diocesan Bishop is to protect the congregation and the future
of our church – of course to honour the Lord and give glory to Him in all that we do.
3.This is not the time to point finger or find faults. many things are outside our control. Rev. Eric’s
leaving has broken my hearts many times. I wept over this before the Lord when he was not willing to
stay till after Christmas. I love this brother and have spent a lot of effort to train him and nurture his
leadership. But he and Phebe decided. What can I do – but to let him go in peace of the
Lord. For Good Samaritan Church members, we must now work with our new Priest-in-charge. He is a
gifted preacher and a good leader. He is young so he will need your support and help. I believe
wholeheartedly that the Lord will bless Good Samaritan Church with a season of harvest and great
abundance in coming year.
Bishop Datuk Albert Vun.

 

 

 

 

December 22, 2013 - 10:10 pm Simon Templar

Am told that bishop Albert Vun published a letter to the congregation of Goodsam today which has defamed Eric Ling. In trying to absolve himself of blame for Eric’s sudden departure, Vun has implied that Eric is a person of dubious character, dishonest, scheming, and cannot be trusted to perform administrative and pastoral duties as he is capable of swindling and harming the parish. Eric Ling, if you are reading this, please get hold of a copy of the letter and sue the bishop of Sabah for libel and defamation. I guarantee you that you will win hands down. Instead of enlightening the parishioners of Eric’s resignation, the bishop has deepened the mystery. While he says that everyone of Eric’s reasons to resign has been minuted at a meeting with the PCC, he hasn’t revealed a single one. Why?



update 7.38am on 22/12/13
If you read this write up properly, you will link this to the forced resignation of Rev. Eric as it is a vindictive avcf with the dark memory --  http://thetrutheng.com/2012/09/03/back-in-good-sam-days/


update 5.36 am - confirmed
Simon Templer,
The reason why Rev Eric resigned is given here.. you may not know it but time will tell, hence AVCF is not physical sick but sure mentally VERY sick in vindictiveness and vengeance and vendetta – Joshua



update from thetruthasc.blogspot.com - see the RED bold letters .

December 15, 2013 - 5:37 pm Simon Templar

Understand that the assistant Bishop John Yeo told a pack of lies at Goodsam this morning. What was most deplorable was that no reason was given of Eric Ling’s sudden resignation. Yeo said Ling resigned for “personal reasons” but refused to elaborate except to say that Eric couldn’t bear his wife suffering from vicious rumours, gossips and comments. Goodsam parishioners say this is contrary to their experience. They say the couple have always been jovial and have got along very well with everyone. In fact Eric was in high spirit and was enthusiastically arranging for the Christmas Open House, working very hard to make sure as many people turn up for the celebration. There was no hint of him resigning. The only hint he dropped about a month ago was that there was a possibility that he would be transferred but then joking said he hoped not. Parishioners said he was looking forward to conduct the wedding of Robert Lim’s son on December 28. What is pathetic, they say, was that David Chung, the people’s warden, had to lie for Bishop Albert Vun on Eric’s sudden resignation. He told the congregation this morning that the bishop had received Eric’s resignation long ago but had not announced it as he was “praying” and “trying to persuade Eric” to change his mind. But Eric remained firm and he had to “announce” Eric’s resignation in such an awkward manner and at such a time when Christmas is round the corner. It is frightening that we have people, and those in high religious order, lying with impunity in the house of God. We have an invertebrate liar who sees himself as the successor of the dying bishop. The Anglican Church has certainly gone to the dogs.







 update:  7.02pm 13/12/13  (page views 12/12/13 -153)

I think many more priests and pastors under employ by AVCF are likely 'illegal' workers with proper work permits which are not normally granted and some may work for 5 years and then disappear under a special concession for clergy.

Some resign on completion of 5 years. Some resign soon to avoid problems with the Immigration.




(page views on 9/11/13 -202 10/12/13 209, 11.12.13 143)  update 10.34am 12/12/13

 Imagine this scenario if AVCF resigns or dead for any reason including his socalled cancer, and if the relevant departments decide to check on ADOS, and if found to be employing "illegal" people as priests and pastors without proper work permits and who are going to pay for the heavy penalties and also who would go to jail for such offence?  Would any of the Stand Com go to take responsibility?  Obvious it would be a very heavy burden for ADOS, and why not settle this while AVCF is still stuck with these CRIMES?  Joshua




Before AVCF resigns or sacked or passed away, please tell us how many priests and pastors are working illegally in Sabah?  Citizens of Sarawak and West Malaysia need to have work permits to work here and it is not easy to get such permits if they apply for the junior jobs.

West Malaysians enter Sabah for three months only and obviously cannot be in employment in Sabah.

Similar Sarawakians are treated the same.

Priests and pastors, please declare yourselves to avoid threats from AVCF who could end up in jail for many years or the ADOS has to pay heavy penalties for the illegal employment...

So AVCF is another great liability to ADOS and I hope SC is aware of this.