Where is AVCF on this support for the Court Case on Allah to come out himself to face this music hard for the ears now.
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/selangor-response-to-jais-raid-on-church-is-pathetic-says-ambiga
This
Sunday, the Christian community in Selangor is also set to come under
further duress as Muslim groups plan to rally outside two Selangor
churches, while Umno Selangor has threatened a state-wide protest
outside churches over a Catholic priest's insistence that Catholic
churches will not abide by a reported Jais directive to stop using
“Allah”.
Temperatures have risen of late over the so-called “Allah” row that
remains unresolved four years after it shocked the nation and led to the
worst religious strife in the country’s history.
- See more at:
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/selangor-response-to-jais-raid-on-church-is-pathetic-says-ambiga#sthash.uteZ2UWT.dpuf
Ambiga
slammed the Selangor government for its 'non-existent' response on the
Jais raid and seizure of Bibles yesterday. — Picture by Choo Choy MayKUALA
LUMPUR, Jan 3 — Datuk Ambiga Sreenevasan has called the Selangor
government's response to yesterday's shocking raid and seizure of bibles
non-existent or at best weak.
The former chairman of polls reform group Bersih's remarks on Twitter
today comes after Sallehen Mukhyi, who holds the state religious affairs
portfolio, said the raid, which led to the seizure of Malay-language
and Iban bibles, was never discussed with him.
He had also pointed out today that the Selangor Islamic Religious
Department (Jais) had forgotten to inform the state administration about
the raid.
Sallehan had also said that Jais did not just take its orders from the
state government but also from the Selangor Islamic Religious Council
(Mais), which means the order comes straight from the Sultan.
Ambiga, a well-respected lawyer and rights activist, said the Selangor state government's response was “pathethic.”
“Why is Selangor State Govt's response on Jais incident non existent or
at best, weak? Hiding behind jurisdiction as an excuse is pathetic,”
she tweeted today,
Earlier, local churches said the shocking raid and seizure of bibles by
Selangor Islamic authorities was a violation of the Christians’
constitutional right to freedom of religion and an “aggressive attack”
on interfaith ties in Malaysia.
The Christian Federation of Malaysia (CFM), which represents virtually
all of the churches nationwide, also dubbed the controversial
enforcement action by the Selangor Islamic Religious Department (Jais)
yesterday as abusive and discrimination against Christians.
“This unconscionable conduct on the part of Jais and the federal police
is not just an authoritarian abuse of power and an act of harassment
against Christians in Malaysia.
“It is also a blatant and aggressive attack on the moral and
multi-cultural fabric of our society which values inter-communal harmony
and utmost respect for the sanctity of each other’s religious beliefs
and books,” the CFM said in a two-page statement today.
Yesterday, Jais raided the Bible Society of Malaysia (BSM)’s office in
Selangor and seized over 300 copies of the Alkitab and Bup Kudus, the
bible in the Malay language and Iban language respectively, while two
BSM officials were arrested by the police and told to report to Jais
next Friday.
Today, CFM stressed that neither Jais nor any other Muslim religious
bodies must gain authority over another religion, saying that it would
otherwise render the protection of freedom of religion under Article 11
of the Federal Constitution meaningless.
“To allow one religion to be able to monitor and regulate how another
religion is to be practiced is a distasteful recipe for disaster, and a
contradiction of the moderation of which the prime minister speaks so
frequently abroad,” it said.
Earlier in the statement, CFM also pointed out that the raid and
seizure had taken place despite the 10-point solution, a Cabinet
decision in 2011 that assured Christians that they would be allowed to
print and distribute bibles in the Malay and indigenous languages.
“The unwarranted actions on the part of Jais, aided and abetted by the
police, are in absolute breach of the Cabinet’s 10-points solution
announced in April 2011 which stated that Christians can import, print
and distribute the Al-Kitab under certain conditions, all of which have
been complied with by BSM,” it said.
It then urged the prime minister and the Cabinet to “uphold” the
federal government’s “word and commitment” to ensure that the Christian
community’s rights under the Federal Constitution “are not violated and
trampled upon by state-level religious officers with the complicity of
the Federal police”.
The bibles seized yesterday contain the word “Allah” but BSM said its
customers are not just the churches in Sabah and Sarawak, but also
Sabahan and Sarawakian Christians, Orang Asli churches and other
Malay-speaking Christians in the peninsula.
It is understood that Jais' actions were taken under the Selangor
Non-Islamic Religions (Control of Propagation Among Muslims) Enactment
1988 that prohibits non-Muslims in Selangor from using 35 Arabic words
and phrases, including the word for God, “Allah”.
This Sunday, the Christian community in Selangor is also set to come
under further duress as Muslim groups plan to rally outside two Selangor
churches, while Umno Selangor has threatened a state-wide protest
outside churches over a Catholic priest's insistence that Catholic
churches will not abide by a reported Jais directive to stop using
“Allah”.
Temperatures have risen of late over the so-called “Allah” row that
remains unresolved four years after it shocked the nation and led to the
worst religious strife in the country’s history.
The ongoing legal dispute between the government and the Catholic
Church over its right to print the word “Allah” in the Herald’s Bahasa
Malaysia section is still pending before the Federal Court, which is set
to hear arguments from both sides on February 24 before deciding on
whether it will hear an appeal by the Catholic Church.
Christians make up about 10 per cent of the Malaysian population, or
2.6 million. Almost two-thirds of them are Bumiputera and are largely
based in Sabah and Sarawak, where they routinely use Bahasa Malaysia and
indigenous languages in their religious practices, including describing
God as “Allah” in their prayers and holy book.
- See more at:
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/selangor-response-to-jais-raid-on-church-is-pathetic-says-ambiga#sthash.uteZ2UWT.dpuf
Ambiga
slammed the Selangor government for its 'non-existent' response on the
Jais raid and seizure of Bibles yesterday. — Picture by Choo Choy MayKUALA
LUMPUR, Jan 3 — Datuk Ambiga Sreenevasan has called the Selangor
government's response to yesterday's shocking raid and seizure of bibles
non-existent or at best weak.
The former chairman of polls reform group Bersih's remarks on Twitter
today comes after Sallehen Mukhyi, who holds the state religious affairs
portfolio, said the raid, which led to the seizure of Malay-language
and Iban bibles, was never discussed with him.
He had also pointed out today that the Selangor Islamic Religious
Department (Jais) had forgotten to inform the state administration about
the raid.
Sallehan had also said that Jais did not just take its orders from the
state government but also from the Selangor Islamic Religious Council
(Mais), which means the order comes straight from the Sultan.
Ambiga, a well-respected lawyer and rights activist, said the Selangor state government's response was “pathethic.”
“Why is Selangor State Govt's response on Jais incident non existent or
at best, weak? Hiding behind jurisdiction as an excuse is pathetic,”
she tweeted today,
Earlier, local churches said the shocking raid and seizure of bibles by
Selangor Islamic authorities was a violation of the Christians’
constitutional right to freedom of religion and an “aggressive attack”
on interfaith ties in Malaysia.
The Christian Federation of Malaysia (CFM), which represents virtually
all of the churches nationwide, also dubbed the controversial
enforcement action by the Selangor Islamic Religious Department (Jais)
yesterday as abusive and discrimination against Christians.
“This unconscionable conduct on the part of Jais and the federal police
is not just an authoritarian abuse of power and an act of harassment
against Christians in Malaysia.
“It is also a blatant and aggressive attack on the moral and
multi-cultural fabric of our society which values inter-communal harmony
and utmost respect for the sanctity of each other’s religious beliefs
and books,” the CFM said in a two-page statement today.
Yesterday, Jais raided the Bible Society of Malaysia (BSM)’s office in
Selangor and seized over 300 copies of the Alkitab and Bup Kudus, the
bible in the Malay language and Iban language respectively, while two
BSM officials were arrested by the police and told to report to Jais
next Friday.
Today, CFM stressed that neither Jais nor any other Muslim religious
bodies must gain authority over another religion, saying that it would
otherwise render the protection of freedom of religion under Article 11
of the Federal Constitution meaningless.
“To allow one religion to be able to monitor and regulate how another
religion is to be practiced is a distasteful recipe for disaster, and a
contradiction of the moderation of which the prime minister speaks so
frequently abroad,” it said.
Earlier in the statement, CFM also pointed out that the raid and
seizure had taken place despite the 10-point solution, a Cabinet
decision in 2011 that assured Christians that they would be allowed to
print and distribute bibles in the Malay and indigenous languages.
“The unwarranted actions on the part of Jais, aided and abetted by the
police, are in absolute breach of the Cabinet’s 10-points solution
announced in April 2011 which stated that Christians can import, print
and distribute the Al-Kitab under certain conditions, all of which have
been complied with by BSM,” it said.
It then urged the prime minister and the Cabinet to “uphold” the
federal government’s “word and commitment” to ensure that the Christian
community’s rights under the Federal Constitution “are not violated and
trampled upon by state-level religious officers with the complicity of
the Federal police”.
The bibles seized yesterday contain the word “Allah” but BSM said its
customers are not just the churches in Sabah and Sarawak, but also
Sabahan and Sarawakian Christians, Orang Asli churches and other
Malay-speaking Christians in the peninsula.
It is understood that Jais' actions were taken under the Selangor
Non-Islamic Religions (Control of Propagation Among Muslims) Enactment
1988 that prohibits non-Muslims in Selangor from using 35 Arabic words
and phrases, including the word for God, “Allah”.
This Sunday, the Christian community in Selangor is also set to come
under further duress as Muslim groups plan to rally outside two Selangor
churches, while Umno Selangor has threatened a state-wide protest
outside churches over a Catholic priest's insistence that Catholic
churches will not abide by a reported Jais directive to stop using
“Allah”.
Temperatures have risen of late over the so-called “Allah” row that
remains unresolved four years after it shocked the nation and led to the
worst religious strife in the country’s history.
The ongoing legal dispute between the government and the Catholic
Church over its right to print the word “Allah” in the Herald’s Bahasa
Malaysia section is still pending before the Federal Court, which is set
to hear arguments from both sides on February 24 before deciding on
whether it will hear an appeal by the Catholic Church.
Christians make up about 10 per cent of the Malaysian population, or
2.6 million. Almost two-thirds of them are Bumiputera and are largely
based in Sabah and Sarawak, where they routinely use Bahasa Malaysia and
indigenous languages in their religious practices, including describing
God as “Allah” in their prayers and holy book.
- See more at:
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/selangor-response-to-jais-raid-on-church-is-pathetic-says-ambiga#sthash.uteZ2UWT.dpuf
The destruction of ADOS brought about by AVCF in 7 years is already too much as the worst model of a Bishop in the Anglican Communion, and ENOUGH is Enough, AVCF and his cronies should be removed instantly without any further notice. PERIOD. Now it is timely to also drag in the Archbishop of Canterbury if the counterpart HoBSea continues to be passive or recalcitrant.
AVCF should present himself to support the Court case on Allah and face treason charge too as he intends to go to FCC to be with his love ones. Joshua
KUALA
LUMPUR, Jan 2 ― Catholic priest Father Lawrence Andrew had allegedly
committed treason against the Selangor Sultan by insisting on using the
word “Allah", claimed state Umno leaders.
Subang Umno chief Datuk Zein Isma Ismail said Lawrence’s recent
statement was akin to going against the Selangor Sultan’s decree banning
non-Muslims in the state from using the Arabic word.
“This is a
penderhakaan (treason) towards the Sultan’s decree and we demand that the related quarter apologise,” Zein was quoted as saying by
Sinar Harian.
Yesterday, all 22 Selangor Umno divisions reportedly lodged police
reports against Father Lawrence Andrew, demanding that the editor of
Catholic Church weekly Herald apologise for saying that Catholic
churches in the state will continue to use the word “Allah” in their
masses.
Prof Tan Sri Dr Abdul Shukor Hussin, the chairman of the National Fatwa
Council, also expressed worry that apparent inaction over Andrew’s
comments, including the use of the Sedition Act 1948, could see unrest
ultimately arising from a challenge of Selangor’s religious edict
banning the non-Muslims’ use of the Arabic word for God.
When commenting on the intention of the Catholic churches in Selangor
to continue using the word “Allah”, Abdul Shukor said the situation
could worsen if they do not comply with the state law.
“Their actions clearly challenges and breaches the fatwa (religious
edict) and decree of the Selangor Sultan as the religious leader and
state ruler. As religious people, this quarter (church) should
understand the reality because their action will surely cause Muslims to
be dissatisfied,” he was quoted as saying by Malay daily
Berita Harian, without singling out Lawrence.
According to
Berita Harian, Perak Mufti Tan Sri Dr Harussani
Zakaria described those who oppose and insult Islam by challenging court
decisions, the Federal Constitution and the country’s royal rulers as
traitors.
Harussani went a step further when he reportedly called for the
government to take firm action such as imprisoning and revoking the
citizenships of such “traitors”, as well as banning churches that
continue to use the word “Allah”.
Harussani did not, however, name those whom he alleged to have insulted Islam.
Utusan Malaysia also reported two Muslim non-government
organisations as claiming that Andrew had contravened a court decision
and called for contempt of court proceedings against him.
Muslim group Muafakat’s president Ismail Mina Ahmad told
Utusan Malaysia: “The court had previously decided that the word is exclusive for the use of Muslims.”
“Andrew’s statement wanting to use that word goes against and insults
the court’s decision, so legal action has to be taken against him,” he
was quoted saying.
Ismail also claimed that Lawrence had insulted the decree of the
Selangor Sultan, where the state ruler had ordered all non-Muslim
residents in the state not to use the word “Allah”.
Malaysian Muslim Consumers Association leader Datuk Nadzim Johan said
the Home Ministry, the Department of Islamic Development Malaysia and
the Selangor Islamic Religious Department (Jais) should haul Lawrence to
court, insisting that this was necessary to prevent anxiety among the
Muslims and to maintain the country’s harmony.
Temperatures have risen of late over the so-called “Allah” row that
remains unresolved four years after it shocked the nation and led to the
worst religious strife in the country’s history.
Matters were further complicated when the Selangor Islamic Religious
Department said it would begin compelling churches in the state to stop
using the word “Allah”, possibly widening the effects of what has
largely been an administrative ban on the word’s usage and which could
have far-reaching consequences on Malaysian’s constitutional right to
freedom of religion.
The ongoing legal dispute between the government and the Catholic Church over its right to print the word “Allah” in the
Herald’s
Bahasa Malaysia section is still pending before the Federal Court,
which is set to hear arguments from both sides on February 24 before
deciding on whether it will hear an appeal by the Catholic Church.
-
See more at:
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/herald-editor-in-allah-storm-accused-of-treason-against-selangor-sultan#sthash.TayoIwE2.dpuf
KUALA
LUMPUR, Jan 2 ― Catholic priest Father Lawrence Andrew had allegedly
committed treason against the Selangor Sultan by insisting on using the
word “Allah", claimed state Umno leaders. - See more at:
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/herald-editor-in-allah-storm-accused-of-treason-against-selangor-sultan#sthash.TayoIwE2.dpuf
KUALA
LUMPUR, Jan 2 ― Catholic priest Father Lawrence Andrew had allegedly
committed treason against the Selangor Sultan by insisting on using the
word “Allah", claimed state Umno leaders.
Subang Umno chief Datuk Zein Isma Ismail said Lawrence’s recent
statement was akin to going against the Selangor Sultan’s decree banning
non-Muslims in the state from using the Arabic word.
“This is a
penderhakaan (treason) towards the Sultan’s decree and we demand that the related quarter apologise,” Zein was quoted as saying by
Sinar Harian.
Yesterday, all 22 Selangor Umno divisions reportedly lodged police
reports against Father Lawrence Andrew, demanding that the editor of
Catholic Church weekly Herald apologise for saying that Catholic
churches in the state will continue to use the word “Allah” in their
masses.
Prof Tan Sri Dr Abdul Shukor Hussin, the chairman of the National Fatwa
Council, also expressed worry that apparent inaction over Andrew’s
comments, including the use of the Sedition Act 1948, could see unrest
ultimately arising from a challenge of Selangor’s religious edict
banning the non-Muslims’ use of the Arabic word for God.
When commenting on the intention of the Catholic churches in Selangor
to continue using the word “Allah”, Abdul Shukor said the situation
could worsen if they do not comply with the state law.
“Their actions clearly challenges and breaches the fatwa (religious
edict) and decree of the Selangor Sultan as the religious leader and
state ruler. As religious people, this quarter (church) should
understand the reality because their action will surely cause Muslims to
be dissatisfied,” he was quoted as saying by Malay daily
Berita Harian, without singling out Lawrence.
According to
Berita Harian, Perak Mufti Tan Sri Dr Harussani
Zakaria described those who oppose and insult Islam by challenging court
decisions, the Federal Constitution and the country’s royal rulers as
traitors.
Harussani went a step further when he reportedly called for the
government to take firm action such as imprisoning and revoking the
citizenships of such “traitors”, as well as banning churches that
continue to use the word “Allah”.
Harussani did not, however, name those whom he alleged to have insulted Islam.
Utusan Malaysia also reported two Muslim non-government
organisations as claiming that Andrew had contravened a court decision
and called for contempt of court proceedings against him.
Muslim group Muafakat’s president Ismail Mina Ahmad told
Utusan Malaysia: “The court had previously decided that the word is exclusive for the use of Muslims.”
“Andrew’s statement wanting to use that word goes against and insults
the court’s decision, so legal action has to be taken against him,” he
was quoted saying.
Ismail also claimed that Lawrence had insulted the decree of the
Selangor Sultan, where the state ruler had ordered all non-Muslim
residents in the state not to use the word “Allah”.
Malaysian Muslim Consumers Association leader Datuk Nadzim Johan said
the Home Ministry, the Department of Islamic Development Malaysia and
the Selangor Islamic Religious Department (Jais) should haul Lawrence to
court, insisting that this was necessary to prevent anxiety among the
Muslims and to maintain the country’s harmony.
Temperatures have risen of late over the so-called “Allah” row that
remains unresolved four years after it shocked the nation and led to the
worst religious strife in the country’s history.
Matters were further complicated when the Selangor Islamic Religious
Department said it would begin compelling churches in the state to stop
using the word “Allah”, possibly widening the effects of what has
largely been an administrative ban on the word’s usage and which could
have far-reaching consequences on Malaysian’s constitutional right to
freedom of religion.
The ongoing legal dispute between the government and the Catholic Church over its right to print the word “Allah” in the
Herald’s
Bahasa Malaysia section is still pending before the Federal Court,
which is set to hear arguments from both sides on February 24 before
deciding on whether it will hear an appeal by the Catholic Church.
-
See more at:
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/herald-editor-in-allah-storm-accused-of-treason-against-selangor-sultan#sthash.TayoIwE2.dpuf
KUALA
LUMPUR, Jan 2 ― Catholic priest Father Lawrence Andrew had allegedly
committed treason against the Selangor Sultan by insisting on using the
word “Allah", claimed state Umno leaders.
Subang Umno chief Datuk Zein Isma Ismail said Lawrence’s recent
statement was akin to going against the Selangor Sultan’s decree banning
non-Muslims in the state from using the Arabic word.
“This is a
penderhakaan (treason) towards the Sultan’s decree and we demand that the related quarter apologise,” Zein was quoted as saying by
Sinar Harian.
Yesterday, all 22 Selangor Umno divisions reportedly lodged police
reports against Father Lawrence Andrew, demanding that the editor of
Catholic Church weekly Herald apologise for saying that Catholic
churches in the state will continue to use the word “Allah” in their
masses.
Prof Tan Sri Dr Abdul Shukor Hussin, the chairman of the National Fatwa
Council, also expressed worry that apparent inaction over Andrew’s
comments, including the use of the Sedition Act 1948, could see unrest
ultimately arising from a challenge of Selangor’s religious edict
banning the non-Muslims’ use of the Arabic word for God.
When commenting on the intention of the Catholic churches in Selangor
to continue using the word “Allah”, Abdul Shukor said the situation
could worsen if they do not comply with the state law.
“Their actions clearly challenges and breaches the fatwa (religious
edict) and decree of the Selangor Sultan as the religious leader and
state ruler. As religious people, this quarter (church) should
understand the reality because their action will surely cause Muslims to
be dissatisfied,” he was quoted as saying by Malay daily
Berita Harian, without singling out Lawrence.
According to
Berita Harian, Perak Mufti Tan Sri Dr Harussani
Zakaria described those who oppose and insult Islam by challenging court
decisions, the Federal Constitution and the country’s royal rulers as
traitors.
Harussani went a step further when he reportedly called for the
government to take firm action such as imprisoning and revoking the
citizenships of such “traitors”, as well as banning churches that
continue to use the word “Allah”.
Harussani did not, however, name those whom he alleged to have insulted Islam.
Utusan Malaysia also reported two Muslim non-government
organisations as claiming that Andrew had contravened a court decision
and called for contempt of court proceedings against him.
Muslim group Muafakat’s president Ismail Mina Ahmad told
Utusan Malaysia: “The court had previously decided that the word is exclusive for the use of Muslims.”
“Andrew’s statement wanting to use that word goes against and insults
the court’s decision, so legal action has to be taken against him,” he
was quoted saying.
Ismail also claimed that Lawrence had insulted the decree of the
Selangor Sultan, where the state ruler had ordered all non-Muslim
residents in the state not to use the word “Allah”.
Malaysian Muslim Consumers Association leader Datuk Nadzim Johan said
the Home Ministry, the Department of Islamic Development Malaysia and
the Selangor Islamic Religious Department (Jais) should haul Lawrence to
court, insisting that this was necessary to prevent anxiety among the
Muslims and to maintain the country’s harmony.
Temperatures have risen of late over the so-called “Allah” row that
remains unresolved four years after it shocked the nation and led to the
worst religious strife in the country’s history.
Matters were further complicated when the Selangor Islamic Religious
Department said it would begin compelling churches in the state to stop
using the word “Allah”, possibly widening the effects of what has
largely been an administrative ban on the word’s usage and which could
have far-reaching consequences on Malaysian’s constitutional right to
freedom of religion.
The ongoing legal dispute between the government and the Catholic Church over its right to print the word “Allah” in the
Herald’s
Bahasa Malaysia section is still pending before the Federal Court,
which is set to hear arguments from both sides on February 24 before
deciding on whether it will hear an appeal by the Catholic Church.
-
See more at:
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/herald-editor-in-allah-storm-accused-of-treason-against-selangor-sultan#sthash.TayoIwE2.dpuf
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/herald-editor-in-allah-storm-accused-of-treason-against-selangor-sultan
KUALA LUMPUR, Jan 2 ― Catholic priest Father Lawrence Andrew had
allegedly committed treason against the Selangor Sultan by insisting on
using the word “Allah
