Senior Citizen.
Augustina t,
Clergy praying for the sick ???? you must ” kaai wan siau ” ???, Clergy are far too busy doing administrative work, thinking how
best to cover up Albert Vun bad traits & going up KoKol Retreat
Centre to pray for the Armor of Protection for Albert Vun from all the
trouble makers at ASC 7.30 am English congregation. Latest news, these Albert Vun’s prayers warriors has now abundant Kokol Retreat Centre & are now praying at Cathedral. Some
put the blame on the Freemason Church for been too close to the Bishop
Lodge & affecting Albert Vun’s split personality mental faculty.
Coming back to Clergy doing visitation to the sick at hospitals &
homes, since they were so busy with administrative work, our Clergy will
ask you to get the cell group leader to mobilize their members to do
visitations & prayers for the sick. They have no time for the sick
as they were trained to be worldly by their grand master of deception
then to be spiritually unless you hold a Tan Sri, Puan Sri, Datuk or
Datin title or you have lots of assets & a big fat bank accounts. If
you are luck, the Cathedral will send Pastor Susan Tan to do the
prayers. Dean will be too busy enjoying his meals at Hyatt Regency &
the Bishop, too busy enjoying
the comfort of the Lodge & scheming how to milk ADOS ?
The greatest LIAR since childhood in AVCF can find anything to blame except himself and that is the modus operandi of the greatest SINNER already mired in FREEMASON since he sold the access road to them..and why blame others when he is committed to 'KILL, ROB, DESTROY' like what the slimy grandmaster Satan does. So God has used others to expose AVCF tendencies as the rotten head.
Would like to know if AVCF is also the spiritual advisor of FREEMASON after selling God's asset to the enemy of Christ? So what is next?
Another BAV supporter
There is so much hate here from the trouble makers. So many exalt
Margaret Chong as if she is a saint. She publicly exposed her bosses’
shame, calling them liars. Haven’t you learned from the lessons of
Jonah’s sons. One made fun of his father’s shame, another cover up his
father. Though shameful deeds were indeed committed, there is no honor
in exposing them. She should settle this quietly with the 3 bishops.
Look at how sin is handled in Philip Lo’s family. Quietly, gracefully
and pastorally…that is the way. So what if the Bishops had lied? Who
hasn’t? Look at how Ps Stella Lo comforted and encouraged Bishop Albert
Vun. She held his hand and walked him into All Saints Cathedral when he
was so despondent. That’s the perfect example of being an encourager for
the Lord’s anointed. Have you done that for your Bishop? You guys only
talk, talk, talk but Pastor Stella just did good. That’s why Stella and
her kids deserve a mission trip to South Africa.
Look at Bishop John Yeo, he gave thousands in honorarium to Bishop
Albert Vun. When accused of calling the complainants as traitors, Bishop
John Yeo shook his head steadfastly. He stuck by his comrade through
thick and thin. Now, that is unity.
Joshua says that is no joke but like 'husband and wives'???
and so another comment thereof ---
Bird Brain
From your comments you agreed that your bosses were indeed
shameful liars and Margaret should just shut up and not exposed them.
You also agreed that Philip Lo’s son case was a good example for future
teenagers to have babies and abandon them. It is ok to have sex and not
be responsible for the consequences and we call that grace. Next you
said it is common to lie and no big deal and bishops are just like
everyone else…then what is this big hoo ha about him being chosen and
anointed? For what if he is just as common as anybody?
Interestingly, he and Stella holding hands publicly and walking into the
church was interpreted as an encourager gesture? Perhaps Philip should
hold Mary’s hand the next time they go into the church……..more
encouragers…. You are as sick as AV.
Joshua asks was D Lo the scapegoat for the real rapist known to all in ADOS?.Get the DNA of the baby to confirm who was the rapist, you know. this is actually the modus operandi of SSY - the menace and the rapist but this rapist in ASC was not SSY but that "4 letter "guy!!!! Joshua so that is the future of ADOS under Archbishop justin welby and Bolly lapok.says .Joshua.
Nothing more to add here except we want an immediate CONFESSION from AVCF. Maybe there is the intention to create a sort of crisis in ST Paul Ranau with a non chinese speaking priest when the majority of the parishioners are Chinese, AVCF may find the opening to transfer back P Lo to that parish as P Lo smells the incomplete project and then to claim credit for the completion..
Surely and slowly ADOS is destroyed by the worst and evil trouble maker with the worst vendetta to crush others in his path..
AVCF has yet to answer all the questions on ASC for six years in writing in addition to all the queries of the 2010 and 2011 ADOS as raised by the Honorable Diocesan Auditor. Nothing is forgotten yet except the most stupid HT and his gangs.
Seeking the truth behind Anglican Diocese of Sabah's Crisis
Kill, Steal & Destroy
What did we learn in how Bishop Albert Vun treated St. Paul’s PCC
members and Pastor Margaret Chong? BAV may not physically kill you, but
he would seek to kill your dream, steal your joy and destroy your self
worth. The transfer denies Ps. Margaret the joy of completing what St.
Paul’s started six years ago. Perhaps BAV thinks by robbing Margaret’s
the credit to the projects she would be so discouraged that she would
resign. Yet BAV forgets our reward is not in this world, but in heaven
where it cannot be destroyed. The Bible teaches us if we sought the
praise of men, we had already received our rewards here on earth, yet if
we sought the praise of God, we will collect our rewards in heaven.
Imagine if Bishop Yong Ping Chung had transferred BAV away from Tawau
before St. Patrick’s Church completed the building of the House of
Prayer? BAV cannot sack Ps. Margaret Chong because she had done no
wrong. So he kills her dream, a six-year dream which St. Paul’s
congregations have nursed together with Margaret. They have been
pregnant with this dream for so long, when this baby is about to be
delivered, BAV swooped in and cut the mother away from the unborn
baby. This is most cruel.
To replace Ps. Margaret under such acrimonious circumstance hardly
gives Canon Lidis in a dream start in Ranau. Canon Lidis is a hapless
pawn in BAV’s revenge plot. In one stroke BAV kills Ps. Margaret
excellent work in Ranau, riles up & destroys St. Paul’s united
leadership, and puts Canon Lidis, who was a bishop candidate 7 years
ago, in the most difficult situation. From cold storage, Canon Lidis
lands into a frying pan. Reminds me of Uriah being placed where the
battle was the fiercest.
Three weeks ago, the transfer was to happen in December. Now,
Margaret and Lidis swap cities in 2 weeks. Can you imagine relocating
your entire family in such short notice? How about Lidis’ wife legal
practice in Sandakan? How about school for the kids? What is so urgent,
so life-and-death that the transfer must happen in 2 weeks? Unless it is
revenge served in the coldest manner.
Sure, the Bishop has the prerogative in staff movement. But does that prerogative extend to transferring families with impunity?
BAV has destroyed the fabric of leadership in St. Paul’s. These are
not armchair critics, but leaders who sweated and bled with the church,
who gave more time, resources and talents to the church than most
people. BAV made no attempts to cool down the temperature but escalated
the friction with insults, spitefulness and rage.
Bishop Albert Vun is not only destroying St. Paul’s, he is doing the
same to many of us in this crisis. What is the objective of Satan? So
that we will become so discouraged that we give up church, so angry that
we become bitter, so skeptical that we become a cynic, so hurt that we
harden our hearts so that we cannot be hurt again.
What should we do in such a time like this? Let us return to Jesus,
He is our Shepherd. He will leave behind the 99 and seek for the 1 who
is lost. He is like a gentle mother who nurses us in her bossom. He is
our rock of ages whose faithfulness never changes, even when we fail
him. He is our good father who looks out and eagerly waits for every
prodigal son and daughter to return. He forgives our sins; as far as
east is from the west, that’s how far Jesus removes our transgressions.
He is the Prince of Peace; let’s abide in the peace that passeth all
understanding. Do not despair my brothers and sisters. Is our God blind,
deaf and mute? Behold the face of God. Behold his deliverance. Behold
his great and mighty powers.
vigilant
I understand it is his prerogative to transfer staff as he deems
right. However, what justifies his action that the pastors have to swap
places in such a hurry? Unless there is an urgent matter, like to
replace a sick pastor or to remove a pastor who has committed serious
offence, such swift transfer interprets nothing but obvious malicious
ill will.
Bad heart
Lidis’s daughter is about to do her SPM in a few weeks. His wife
has stopped work for a long while because AV ruled that wives should
sacrifice to support husband’s ministry. AV abused the simple and
submissive nature of our interior brothers and sisters. AV has problems
with wives that are educated and professionals which means the priests
do not need to kow tow to him as they can be financially independent.
For all that he is doing tells a lot of himself of not having a happy
marriage and family life so others should not have it either.
Any wise and considerate man will know that transfer should be made
during the long holidays for obvious reasons. Other factors such as
language suitability and also the needs of the particular church et
cetera must be weighed against the priests’ strength and giftings
besides a willing and obedient heart to serve.
Yong Thiam Choy was another selfish decision of AV, his wife was
separated from the children for half a year due to her inability to be
transferred to Sandakan immediately when her husband has to go there. If
AV has love he will not do this to his priests and families… There are
many more cases.
What he has done and doing also tells how desperate he is to hold on to power.
Joyce, (truthblog) Is it enough just post your strong view that "Our Diocese has a very sick person heading it. "?
What is next actionwise? Rome is burning and ADOS is burning and rotting at the core and all the evil schemes are still ongoing.
All the socalled AVCF supporters etc here are in same modus operandi to destroy ADOS for ill gotten gains. The secret plans are known in close circles and AVCF is only staging a stance for his own purpose.
Some say Anglicans leave ADOS and their respective churches and that is what AVCF want that to happen. So when many churches in Sabah are near empty like in UK, AVCF still helming ADOS would dispose of all the God's assets as he had been doing it openly or secretly and AVCF and his gang would grab and would finally laugh at Stupid anglicans.
Some say that 'no more tithe and donation" and ADOS would still survive for some years or months because ADOS still have some millions from the sold Likas Land. AVCF just want to hold the fort against all odds and finally still grab the assets of ADOS. Don't you people know this? We must remove AVCF now at all costs.
Remember this phrase "Ja soh sik kan bi", and that is the sort of strategy AVCF had adopted since 1980s and energised by his ill habits in SPC and that can be seen as in San Tzu warfare, but God forbids but AVCF would destroy ADOS using the funds and position/power as the sick head.
So we must hold the crisis by the head (hold the bull by the head) and confront AVCF and his gang and be courageous and strong in the Lord.
So we need to plan, meet and act positively and not just posting here. Some people closed to AVCF had call most of us as 'barking dogs' and no suit was activated. Why? Why? siok sendiri!!!!
This is a terrible awakening confirmation for the vindictive and evil AVCF unfit to be the rotten head of ADOS and his evil intent is truly to destroy the Anglican churches in Sabah and beyond for a reward to meet Satan. So all PCCs should rise up to remove this evil and revengeful man as soon as possible. All those priests, pastors and others should come out to declare their stands now. ENOUGH is ENOUGH.
from here---- http://thetrutheng.com/2013/10/01/bav-takes-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-7820
BAV Takes Revenge
Bishop Albert Vun abrupt transfer of Pastor Margaret Chong from
Ranau to Sandakan prompted protests from St. Paul’s Church, with the PCC
resigning en bloc and demanding the Bishop to apologize for scolding
and humiliating them at a meeting last Friday.
Pastor Margaret Chong’s transfer to Sandakan with Canon Lidis heading
the opposite direction was first mentioned during the clergy conference
on 2-3 September. BAV instructed Margaret not to inform the PCC because
it was not finalised. On 12 September when Philip Lo visited St Paul’s,
he instructed the PCC to rent a house for Canon Lidis.
“This was how St. Paul’s PCC found out Pastor Margaret would be
transferred. Pastor Margaret never said a word about this. We were
stunned to learn about it through Philip Lo,” said Low Gee Huat who had
been serving in the PCC for over 20 years.
The PCC was shellshocked because St. Paul’s had been planning to
build a multipurpose hall in Kundasang and a new staff quarters. “We
have been raising money for almost six years since Pastor Margaret first
arrived here. We’ve got enough money and we are about to start
construction, and the Bishop transfers away Pastor Margaret,” said Low.
St. Paul’s has a small but thriving Chinese congregation. Louis Yap,
who served for 17 years in the PCC, said it was in no small part thanks
to Pastor Margaret’s hard work and ability to speak three languages.
“With Pastor Margaret gone and Canon Lidis unable to minister in
Chinese, I am not sure what will happen to the Chinese congregation,”
said Yap. He also added 70% of the giving come from the Chinese
congregation, and it is unwise and irresponsible to neglect the Chinese
work.
Last Friday, at a meeting with Bishop Albert Vun in KK, the PCC
petitioned for Pastor Margaret to stay in Ranau based on the facts given
above. However, BAV told the six-person PCC since they had resigned,
they had no say in the administration of the church. BAV also told the
six men he would appoint a new PCC to replace them and would not stop
them from serving or moving on to another church.
“What kind of a bishop is this? Instead of encouraging and
strengthening us, he rubs salt to wounds and insinuates we should leave
the Anglican church,” said Low. Louis Yap who was at the meeting said it
was the first time in 17 years serving in the PCC he was scolded by a
bishop. Both men testified BAV was so loud and furious that “his face
changed shape”.
Bishop Albert Vun then accused St. Paul’s Church for “backstabbing
him and twisting the knife on him”. He challenged them if they
understood the 24-page dossier they signed and submitted by the 10
delegates to the House of Bishops last year. The six PCC members were
puzzled. First, they did not sign the petition to the House of Bishops,
only a petition against Philip Lo’s ordination. Secondly, what does the
Diocesan crisis has to do with the local ministry in St. Paul’s Church?
“He was raging and getting very personal. Why is he scolding us for
things we did not do?” Yap argued. While BAV raged, Low said he realised
revenge was the real motive behind the transfer of Pastor Margaret
Chong, not the wellbeing of St. Paul’s Church.
“After six months [sabbatical], Bishop Albert Vun has not changed one bit. He has become more bitter and vengeful,” said Low.
When the PCC returned to Ranau, Pastor Margaret coaxed them to
withdraw their resignation to no avail. “If Bishop Albert Vun writes to
us officially to ask us to stay on, personally delivers the letter to us
and then apologise for humiliating and wrongly accusing us, then
perhaps we would reconsider. Otherwise there is nothing to talk about,”
said Low.
Most members of St. Paul’s PCC have served the church for more than
20 years. They gave their money, time and resources sacrificially to
raise enough funds for the building projects. To be discarded just
before these projects begin was heartbreaking.
“Since the Diocese wants to call all the shots, then let them handle
the building projects. They made it clear they don’t need us anymore,”
said Low. When asked if the PCC would continue to support the projects
under the leadership Canon Lidis, Low said the PCC had nothing against
Canon Lidis or his leadership. Yet when it comes to giving and
contribution, he believes the church members will be “very cautious”
after this rude awakening.
As for Pastor Margaret Chong who confronted the 3 bishops for lying, her transfer to Sandakan had been moved forward from 5 December to 15 October.
Peter
The teaching from our Lord Jesus is very clear with regard to
recognising our sins and sincerely ask for forgiveness. Gospel of Luke
23 v 39-43. ” One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at Him;
Aren’t you the Christ? Save yourself and us!. But the other criminal
rebuked him. Don’t you fear God, he said, since you are under the same
sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds
deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong. Then he said, Jesus,
remember me when you come into your kingdom. Jesus answered him, I tell
you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise. ”
The criminal has accepted Christ as a sinless man and ask Jesus for his
forgiveness. Even at the eleventh hour Jesus guarantee him a place in
paradise. I believed the other criminal is condemned into hell because
he did not agree to his wrong deeds and also insulted Jesus. So, if a
brother or sister who is so arrogrant and proud not to recognise the
factual evidences and truth of his/her wrong deeds, Jesus is not going
to forgive him/her until death. Jesus is merciful and will be merciful
where it is properly due. It is very very clear and no double standard
or deviation. Amen.
Peter, Amen for your post.
So why are we still AVCF an unrepentent person full of vengeance as
at CCL recently despite 6 months of wasteful Sabbatical leave at great
expense of ADOS and members of ADOS still the Bishop.
AVCF is so contagious and even possessed by Satan to cause others
like people in the same boat – BL, JY, Meltar T, Moses T, H Tong, M
Tong, S Foo, CSF, YTC and many others to fall to be in hell unless all
of them repent before Jesus.
senior citizen
What the Bishop did was like running as a sole proprietor of a
small Kedai Runcit Chong Vui & Herbet’s endosement of no lost of
money is like Albert’s cardinal right in helping himself to the day
taking/sales from the right pocket to put into his left pocket.
However, may I remind all our Bishops, Bishop Commissary & Rev.
Philip Lo, ADOS does not belongs to Albert Vun Chong Fui, John Yeo &
Philip Lo. Neither did it belongs to Herbert Tong. What Albert Vun is just pushing his luck too far & we shall wait for the decision day from the Court House on December 3rd.
Albert, John, Philip & Herbet your days of hide & seek with the court of law is deminishing by the day.
It is indeed a
great moment to write this message for the Golden anniversary of Malaysia.
Undoubtedly the
nation is going through a very hazardous era in recent years with many
unexplained
And unproven
shootings of people for whatever reasons and now the nation is under the spell
of gangsterism so much so that the Police is going all out suddenly to war
against the gangsters and secret societies under operation code-named Ops
Cantas Khas (Operation against terrorists).
While many were
worried in the formative years of the early 1960s about the regional giants
namely Indonesia and Philippines so much so that Sabah was pushed into the
formation of Malaysia which happened 50 years ago on 16th of September,
1963, the recent few decades of ironic developments by giving citizenships to
1-2 millions unqualified foreigners including illegal aliens entering Sabah
coaxed by the several generations of socalled Sabah leaders and national
leaders is actually handing over the sovereignty and integrity of Sabah as well
as Malaysia into the hands of these foreigners beyond belief.
So for Sabah,
it is neither here nor there as far as sovereignty, security and justice is
concerned as the Federal policies are dicing with sort of unjustified apartheid
and denied ethnic cleansing.
With the
initiated Royal Commission of Inquiry on Illegal Immigrants Sabah (RCIIIS) and
hearings in the High Court at Kota Kinabalu started on 14th of
January, 2013 and soon ending on 20th of September, 2013, much hope
for the TRUTHwas dashed when the ex
Prime Minister Dr. Mahathir testified in the Commission’s hearing on 11th
of September, 2013 denied everything about the Project IC and Project
Mahathir.It is indeed a great
disappointment for the GOLDEN jubilee normally a year of change for the
better.Hopefully, the ex Deputy Prime
Minister Anwar Ibrahim would put the record straight on the very important
matter on 19th of September, 2013 when he would appear beforethe RCIIIS.The fact that the RCIIIS conducted in the jubilee year is already sort
of blessing for corrective measures in Sabah and Malaysia
for the first official Federal initiated RCI happening in Sabah.Let the Jubilee ‘joy’ be ‘ruined’ or ‘burden’
not be made heavier by sort of distorted minds bent on lies and half truths. Let
the Project IC and Project Mahathir be shined out into the TRUTH now without
any further delay.
Let this
message be to all Malaysians in Sabah, Sarawak, Peninsula Malaysia, Labuan
and beyond.
Malaysia has a whole host of issues without any
solution even after 50 years and such issues are endless with matching endless
possibilities.That is the real
challenge for all Malaysians.
For Sabah in
particular, the problems can be attributable to national policies bias against
Sabah and Sarawak right from the day of 16th
of September, 1963 resulting in lopsidedness in everything you can name.There are many reasons for this malaise in
Sabah, Sarawak and Peninsular Malaysia but one
key reason is that all key leaders must be born locally and not naturalized
citizens according to the Constitution.Would
all living present and past leaders present their birth certificates and also
DNA for public exhibits?Those dead past
leaders should have the birth certificates in the Archive.Like a rotten fish, the head rots first and
such impacts are relevant to Governance.
Economy is
another area to be addressed nationwide but what can anyone deal with a
scenario of near bankruptcy for various past developments as flows:-
We know who have ‘stolen’ so much
money in Malaysia
and siphoned off in 23 years of rule when I calculate the figure in excess
of RM400billions.This robbery is
also continued by the subsequent leaders.
The confirmed failure of very
costly program of New Economic Policy and the distorted results by several
billionaires being proxies for the corrupted leaders hence distorted the
racial distribution of wealth.
Our economy has been resources
based and excessive lopsided exploitation resulted in irreversible re-structuring
of the economy in a competitive world when value of our resources had been
artificially low.
All development plans had been
mismanaged with large junks of financial resources diminished by official
corruption.
With so much official corruption
albeit denied, there is really no real business that can generate the
desired growth to feed the increasing population including massive aliens
in Sabah and beyond.
On the wee
hours of the day after polling on 5th May, 2013 being the General
Election 13, Najib asked “what the Chinese want?”The question was met with a ‘firestorm’ from
some quarters.Why did not he ask “What
the Malay want?” when BN/UMNO did not win the majority votes from all races of Malaysia
including the Malays has also forsaken BN/UMNO to a certain degree.Before the dust has really settled in
September, 2013 Najib faced with a daunting task to retain UMNO’s leadership
decided to ‘reward’ the Malays and the Bumiputra another sort of economic‘bailout’ on the eve of the Golden anniversary
of Malaysia.Is this what the Malays and the Bumiputra
really want?Isn’t this another
extension of the ‘walking stick’ when the last one since 1970 is so easily
forgotten like Dr Mahathir once said “Malays forgets easily”.Are they getting a Golden walking stick or
only some would exploit this new measure again to enrich themselves at the
expense of the poor and desperate when we know such well intended effort would
not reach the target groups in the remote areas?
The world is
going through a very difficult time and Malaysia is no exception.Is there really any solution to the global
malaise? Would ‘humbleness’ alone be an ingredient towards solution soon?Would we like to define ‘humbleness’ if this effort
can bring about some changes especially in the elite factions in Malaysia?Before any ‘humbleness’ can impact society,
the massive ill gotten gains must be returned to the public domain for a
rejuvenation and invigoration of the nation and its society.
No matter what,
let us celebrate the GOLDEN Jubilee of Malaysia and lets pray for a new
beginning in the nation.
Lets break the
chain of the past and the people are set free, and really free to move forward
for a better tomorrow.
Any wise and considerate man will know that transfer should be made during the long holidays for obvious reasons. Other factors such as language suitability and also the needs of the particular church et cetera must be weighed against the priests’ strength and giftings besides a willing and obedient heart to serve.
Yong Thiam Choy was another selfish decision of AV, his wife was separated from the children for half a year due to her inability to be transferred to Sandakan immediately when her husband has to go there. If AV has love he will not do this to his priests and families… There are many more cases.
What he has done and doing also tells how desperate he is to hold on to power.